Ich will auch einen 5 cap Fight

Post by **Andreas Nusser** » 26 May 2004, 15:00

Gruß Nusser

Azrael · Post by **Azrael** » 26 May 2004, 15:05

Kein Problem!

Schick mir den Vampir und die Karten deiner Wahl per PM und warte auf einen Gegner...

(Als PM Titel bitte den Titel des Threads eingeben)

the scavenger · Post by **the scavenger** » 26 May 2004, 15:11

Andreas Nusser wrote:Gruß Nusser

Der Nusser... Na bravo. Dann lass uns kuscheln.

sk.

Post by **Andreas Nusser** » 26 May 2004, 15:23

the scavenger wrote:
Andreas Nusser wrote:Gruß Nusser
Der Nusser... Na bravo. Dann lass uns kuscheln.

sk.

Klar. Brauchen nur noch das ok vom GM Judge Master Icognito Azrael

Azrael · Post by **Azrael** » 26 May 2004, 15:24

Acting:

Andreas Nusser mit:

Ana Rita Montana

Discipline: aus dom obf VIC

Sabbat.

Reacting:

the scavenger mit:

Bear Paw

Discipline: for pre pro ANI

<Camarilla>

Na dann, mal los!

Post by **Andreas Nusser** » 26 May 2004, 15:28

Los geht es mit mir.

Bevor Range

2* Horrid Form aud Superior und Bloodfom

Ana Rita Montana (3/5)

Bear Paw (5/5)

Azrael · Post by **Azrael** » 26 May 2004, 15:31

Bloodform [SW:R]
Cardtype: Combat

Discipline: Vicissitude

[vic] Strike: combat ends, only usable when in combat with an ally.
[VIC] Play before range is chosen. This vampire is immune to non-aggravated damage for the current round. This vampire cannot strike this round. This vampire gets an optional press, usable only to end combat.

the scavenger · Post by **the scavenger** » 26 May 2004, 15:34

Andreas Nusser wrote:Los geht es mit mir.

Bevor Range

2* Horrid Form aud Superior und Bloodfom

Ana Rita Montana (3/5)

Bear Paw (5/5)

Ich spiele Shape Mastery auf deine erste Horrid Form und cancel sie, du kannst die zweite nicht spielen, wärst damit weiter 5/5.

Shape Mastery
Cardtype: Combat/Reaction
Discipline: Protean
[pro] Cancel a combat card that requires Obtenebration [obt], Protean, or Vicissitude [vic] as it is played (no cost is paid). The opposing minion cannot play that card again this action.
[PRO] As above, but cancel an action modifier that requires any of those Disciplines.

Ändert das deine sonstige pre-range, oder bleibt's bei Bloodform?

Post by **Andreas Nusser** » 26 May 2004, 15:35

the scavenger wrote:
Andreas Nusser wrote:Los geht es mit mir.

Bevor Range

2* Horrid Form aud Superior und Bloodfom

Ana Rita Montana (3/5)

Bear Paw (5/5)
Ich spiele Shape Mastery auf deine erste Horrid Form und cancel sie, du kannst die zweite nicht spielen, wärst damit weiter 5/5.

Shape Mastery
Cardtype: Combat/Reaction
Discipline: Protean
[pro] Cancel a combat card that requires Obtenebration [obt], Protean, or Vicissitude [vic] as it is played (no cost is paid). The opposing minion cannot play that card again this action.
[PRO] As above, but cancel an action modifier that requires any of those Disciplines.

Ändert das deine sonstige pre-range, oder bleibt's bei Bloodform?

Die Karte ist für ungültig, mit der habe ich nicht gerechnet

Ansonsten habe ich nichts in der Prerange.

the scavenger · Post by **the scavenger** » 26 May 2004, 15:38

Andreas Nusser wrote:Ansonsten habe ich nichts in der Prerange.

Okay, von mir kommt das Übliche:

Terror Frenzy [ANI]
Drawing out the Beast [ANI]
Carrion Crows [ANI]
Flesh of Marble [pro]

Kein Manöver, du also auch nicht. Irgendwas pre-strike?

the scavenger · Post by **the scavenger** » 26 May 2004, 15:39

the scavenger wrote:
Andreas Nusser wrote:Ansonsten habe ich nichts in der Prerange.
Okay, von mir kommt das Übliche:

Terror Frenzy [ANI]
Drawing out the Beast [ANI]
Carrion Crows [ANI]
Flesh of Marble [pro]

Kein Manöver, du also auch nicht. Irgendwas pre-strike?

Oh, vergaß: Bear Paw (4/5)

Post by **Andreas Nusser** » 26 May 2004, 15:44

the scavenger wrote:
the scavenger wrote:
Andreas Nusser wrote:Ansonsten habe ich nichts in der Prerange.
Okay, von mir kommt das Übliche:

Terror Frenzy [ANI]
Drawing out the Beast [ANI]
Carrion Crows [ANI]
Flesh of Marble [pro]

Kein Manöver, du also auch nicht. Irgendwas pre-strike?
Oh, vergaß: Bear Paw (4/5)

Klar Pre Strike Bloof of Acid VIC: Allen Schaden denn mu mir machst kriegste AGGi zurück. Wenn ich schon draufgehe dann in allen Ehren.

Blood of Acid 2 Blood +1 Trerror Frenzy

[vic] Only usable at close range before strikes are chosen. During each strike resolution this round, the opposing minion takes an amount of
of damage equal to the damage he or she successfully inflicts. A vampire may play only one Blood of Acid each round. [VIC] As above, but the damage is aggravated.

Ana Rita Montana (2/5)

Post by **Andreas Nusser** » 26 May 2004, 15:51

Sonst habe ich nichts weiteres und würde Dich für 2 Hauen

Azrael · Post by **Azrael** » 26 May 2004, 15:53

Ähh...? Ist die Bloodform noch da oder nicht?
Wenn ja hast du keinen Strike...

the scavenger · Post by **the scavenger** » 26 May 2004, 15:55

Andreas Nusser wrote:Klar Pre Strike Bloof of Acid VIC: Allen Schaden denn mu mir machst kriegste AGGi zurück. Wenn ich schon draufgehe dann in allen Ehren.

Blood of Acid 2 Blood +1 Trerror Frenzy

[vic] Only usable at close range before strikes are chosen. During each strike resolution this round, the opposing minion takes an amount of
of damage equal to the damage he or she successfully inflicts. A vampire may play only one Blood of Acid each round. [VIC] As above, but the damage is aggravated.

Ana Rita Montana (2/5)

Hmmm, ich schmeiß mal gleich das relevante Ruling von LSJ in den Ring - ist zwar etwas komplitückisch, aber das letzte Wort dazu:

Chris Berger wrote:
>
> "LSJ" <vtesrep@white-wolf.com> wrote in message
> news:3D04DE01.E32EE4FA@white-wolf.com...
> > Arpeges wrote:
> > >
> > > Bloodform (Vic)
> > > sup : Play before range is chosen. This vampire is immune to non-aggravated
> > > damage for the current round. This vampire cannot strike this round. This
> > > vampire gets an optional press, usable only to end combat.
> > >
> > > During a combat, Tzimisce A plays before range : bloodform and after range,
> > > blood of acid. The opposing minion (B) strikes for 4 non-aggravated damage.
> > > Minion A doesn't strike, as he played bloodform at superior.
> > >
> > > 1st question : Is the damage inflicted by minion B considered successfully
> > > inflicted despite the Bloodform ? and btw, does he take the same amount of
> > > damage from blood of acid ?
> >
> > Yes. Yes.
> >
> How is this different from Ex Nihilo, re LSJ 10/29/2001:
>
> > >
> > > If a vampire with Ex Nihilio takes non-aggravated damage, is that
> > > damage considered "successfully inflicted" for the purpose of cards
> > > such as Masochism and Disarm? Is a vampire with Ex Nihilio immune to
> > > unpreventable non-aggravated damage as well?
> >
> > No. Yes.
> >

Well, it's completely contradictory, for starters. But I suspect you already
knew that part. :-) [LSJ 10/29/2001] is correct. My previous post above re: Bloodform and Blood of Acid is not correct. Damage inflicted on a minion (or retainer) who is immune to that damage is not considered to be successfully inflicted. Thanks for the catch, Chris.

--
LSJ (vtesrep@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
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Kurz gesagt: Nicht vor Strikes von mir. Du hast keinen Strike. Hau dich für 1, 2 von den Krähen. Du bist immun dagegen, also passiert nichts in Sachen Blood of Acid. Ditto DotB im Press-Step. Endresultat: Ana (2/5), Bear Paw (4/5).

Schön ausgedachte Kombi, schade, dass sie nicht funktionert.[/b]

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