Aber es wäre doch sooo schön gewesen .... achso der "Correct. ..." post ist von LSJ aber das hättet Ihr Euch ja auch denken können.>>One question came up in our latest V:TES night. I was controlling Michael
>>Luther and during a referendums we had the following situation (a bit
>>complicated):
>>I had 7 votes in favor, they had 8 votes against (4 princes). One of them
>>had a Justicar and he said the Justicar abstains from the referendum. The
>>were waiting that I change 1 prince in my favor thus making it 9 to 6 and
>>then voting with the Justicar to make the referendum fail. I was argumenting
>>that Michael Luthers ability can be applied after all votes were cast to
>>change one of the vampires votes and that I can change an abstaining
>>vampires votes. They were trying to argument that I cannot change abstaining
>>vampires votes and they can wait "forever" with the justicar to cast votes
>>just until Michael Luther has been tapped.
>>
>>So the question is : can I pass the referendum (how and why?) or can I not
>>(why?) ?
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>
> You cannot force them to vote.
> The ability can only be used *after* they have voted -not if they don't
> vote. (first post googling for "luther" in the NG)
> After you use your ability they have the right to cast votes.
>
> They can wait 'forever' inasmuch as they don't have to vote -at some
> point you can call for any more votes and then declare the referendum
> over BUT you cannot use your ability after the referendum is over and
> nor can you use it and then rush to end the referendum before they can
> vote.
>
> You can't pass this referendum unless you have some other form of vote
> push.
Correct.
If everyone reaches the "I won't do anything until someone else does"
point, then it's time to close the referendum.
