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Posted: 15 May 2006, 13:50
by ghost of extrala
Decebalus wrote:Da wir mit TCGs eine Krönung in der kapitalistischen Entwicklung der Gesellschaftsspiele unterstützen, dürfen wir uns über Verkaufstechnik kaum beklagen.
Die Krönung haben wir noch lange nicht erreicht. Wie wäre es mit (virtuellen) Karten, die die Spieler nur für eine bestimmte Zeitdauer leasen können. (So mitten im Turnier-Finale dann: Tut mir leid, die Leasing-Dauer ihrer DI ist seit 30 Minuten abgelaufen, Sie können die Karte jetzt nicht mehr spielen.) Natürlich werden die Leasing-Booster trotzdem nur zufällig bestückt.
Decebalus wrote:Ansonsten sag ich nur: Warghould für alle.
Jawohl, ja!

Posted: 15 May 2006, 15:05
by Mateusz
ghost of extrala wrote:
Decebalus wrote:Ansonsten sag ich nur: Warghould für alle.
Jawohl, ja!
Schön und gut, und woher kriegt ihr die 5-6 Jake Washington die man dann noch braucht damits läuft? :wink:

Posted: 15 May 2006, 17:08
by Männele
Decebalus wrote:
Männele wrote: dass wir uns in dem neuen Laden mal blicken lassen sollten und Einführungsrunden machen.
Wasn fürn Laden?
Arrgh. Warum gebe ich mir überhaupt Mühe :roll: . Das Teil in Rödelheim, Game Encounter oder Toy Check oder wie der Laden halt heißt. Nicht, dass ich das auch schon angemerkt hätte.

Und Kriegsgold für alle fände ich ja irgendwie traurig.

Posted: 23 May 2006, 12:17
by Murat
Männele wrote: Und Kriegsgold für alle fände ich ja irgendwie traurig.
...jedem sein Fetisch.

Posted: 26 May 2006, 14:01
by Pyropete
Mich wundert auch das neue "Sortiment" an Precons - Tzimisce und Brujah find ich noch wichtig, weil von denen gabs ja noch keine Precons im neuen Outfit - aber Tremere und Malks wurden ja erst im BH neu aufgelegt

Aber ich denke und hoffe mal nicht, dass sie an den Regeln großartig was ändern würden - das haben sie auch die vergangenen 12 Jahre nicht gemacht (soweit ich mich erinnern kann). Vielleicht kommen neue Draft-Regeln hinzu, aber ich glaub nicht, dass das die Spielbarkeit der alten Karten einschränken wird

Posted: 06 Jun 2006, 16:46
by hardyrange
Von: "Oscar J Garza III" <ogarza@white-wolf.com>
An: "Conclave" <conclave@list.white-wolf.com>
Betreff: Re: VEKN Conclave - Expected Release Date for 3rd edition
Datum: Tue, 06. Jun 2006 10:45:10 -0400

Currently the VTES 3rd Edition release is tentatively August 21st. I'll know
more in the next week or so.

Oscar J. Garza III
Organized Play Coordinator
White Wolf Publishing, Inc.
1554 Litton Drive
Stone Mountain, GA 30083

Posted: 22 Jun 2006, 00:02
by hardyrange
Von: "Oscar J Garza III" <ogarza@white-wolf.com>
An: "Conclave" <conclave@list.white-wolf.com>
Betreff: VEKN Conclave - Pre-release for VTES 3rd Ed.
Datum: Wed, 21. Jun 2006 15:25:05 -0400

White Wolf Announces
V:TES 3rd Edition Pre-Release Event
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Direct Inquiries to:
Oscar J Garza III, Organized Play Coordinator
White Wolf Publishing
1554 Litton Drive
Stone Mountain, GA 30083
orgplay@white-wolf.com
404-292-1819 x238

Vampire: The Eternal Struggle 3rd Edition Pre-Release Event

Now in it's 12th year of play, White Wolf Publishing Celebrates the latest
expansion of Vampire: The Eternal Struggle (VTES), White Wolf Publishing and
the Princes of the Elder Kindred Network (VEKN) are promoting a weekend long
series of tournaments and special events across the globe. The goal of this
world spanning event is to help existing players entice new players into the
game. Below is the basic information needed to plan your own tournament.

On September 2nd and 3rd, VEKN players and Princes will team up with
retailers around the world in an effort to create new players for White Wolf's
award winning. Ccg, Vampire: The Eternal Struggle. Coinciding with the
launch of the 3rd Edition VTES, this pre-release event will focus on
bringing new players into the fold of one of the longest running ccgs in the
market.

Why is the VTES 3rd Edition pre-release kit the best way to do this?

. Participants will walk away with a free demo deck compliments of White
Wolf.
. The Pre-release kits include unique promo cards exclusive to this event.
. Available for sale immediately following the demo, each kit includes
starters and boosters of the brand-new VTES 3rd edition for sale to new
players.

Retailers:

$244.99 WW2748 VTES 3rd Edition Pre-release kit

Pre-release kit contents:

1 x 2751WWP VTES 3rd Ed Booster Display
1 x 2752WWP VTES 3rd Ed Starter Display
1 x 2751WWP VTES 3rd Ed Booster Display Prize
5 x 2631WWP VTES Demo Deck: Ventrue
5 x 2632WWP VTES Demo Deck: Aus-Pre
6 x 2633WWP VTES Demo Deck: Anti-Pot
16 x 2541WWP Promo: VTES Playmat 11x17
30 x 2735WWP VTES Promo Card Waxen Poetica

The first two items, one Booster Display and one Starter Display are slated
for sale to take advantage of the weekend long event Using our guidelines,
new players can purchase the starter decks and participate in a sealed deck
tournament for up to 8 players.

The remaining Booster display should be allocated to players running demos
in your store. For each demo that the players complete, he or she should
receive a number of booster packs equal to the number of participants.

For example, five new players attend an in-store event on Saturday,
September 2nd. Each player participating should receive one free demo deck,
one promo playmat and one promo card. After attending the demo, the players
should each keep their decks and the player who ran the demo should receive
five booster packs, one for each player. After the demo, the players can
purchase one starter deck and four booster packs each and participate in a
sealed deck tournament.

Princes/Organizers:

This event is designed to bolster your existing playgroup and strengthen
ties with your local retailer. It is suggested that members of your
playgroup run demos for new players in the store the day of the event.

If time allows, there is enough product with this kit to purchase 8 starters
and 32 boosters for an 8-person Limited Event.


AFTER THE EVENT:
Let us know how things went. The WW Website will be putting up a news story
on the Pre-release events. We want Pictures, Tell us how many people showed
up. How many players did you meet? We'll draw a name from the post-event
reports submitted and send one person a display of 3rd Edition. Just to say
thanks for keeping us in the loop.

PRICES MAY VARY FOR INDIVIDUAL RETAILERS. Princes, Organizers, or Retailers
with concerns may contact Oscar Garza, the Organized Play Coordinator at
orgplay@white-wolf.com


Vampire: The Eternal Struggle celebrates its twelfth anniversary this year.
Designed by Richard Garfield, designer of Magic: The Gathering®, VTES allows
players to pit clans of vampires against one another in a mix of intrigue
and action.

Play VTES Online at http://www.vtesonline.com

*********************
About White Wolf: Since its entry into the roleplaying game market in 1991,
White Wolf Publishing, Inc. has grown, maintaining an average market share
of 26%. With collective book sales in excess of 5.5 million copies during
this time, White Wolf is one of two undisputed worldwide publishing leaders
for pen-and-paper roleplaying games. White Wolf properties have been
licensed for television series, comic books, action figures, console and
computer video games, coin-operated arcade games, professional wrestlers,
replica props and weapons, interactive media events and myriad merchandise.
More information on White Wolf can be found at http://www.white-wolf.com/.

Posted: 22 Jun 2006, 00:54
by ghost of extrala
Ausserdem aus dem Katalog von WW:
VTES: 3rd Edition Player's Kit
You Rule the Night, but Beware Usurpers!

VTES was the second collectible card game ever produced, and by popular and critical opinion it remains the very best CCG for 3+ players. It offers incredible depth, but all those options can make it difficult for new players. No longer. With the VTES Player’s Kit, a group of four new players will ease into this engrossing game of politics and strategy.

An introductory set for those new to Vampire: The Eternal Struggle®

• Four pre-stacked decks and turn-by-turn instructions to guide new players through the intricacies of the game.
• Exclusive sketch versions of four vampire cards available only in this Kit.

VTES: 3rd Edition Player's Kit™ Contents: Four 50-card introductory decks, 120 blood tokens, rulebook, Quickstart rules.
Anmerkung: In der Mail von Oscar stehen nur drei verschiedene Demo-Decks (Ventrue, Aus-Pre, Anti-Pot). Obowhl ich ja glaube, letzteres sollte "Ani-Pot" heissen.
VTES: 3rd Edition Booster Display
Terrorizing the Rulers of the Night!

Vampires are far superior to mere mortals. So why hide within mortal society when a breather is valued only for the blood in their veins? Just as they stand against the Camarilla, those so-called civilized vampires, who pretend to be mortals, the Sabbat do not play games. Instead, they engage in an eternal struggle for their own freedom, even from one another.

A new base set for Vampire: The Eternal Struggle®

• Over 100 brand-new cards.
• Booster packs that are extremely draft-friendly by including cards with extra effects usable only in draft play.

VTES: 3rd Edition Booster Display™ Contents: 36 booster packs, each booster pack contains 11 cards.
Anmerkung: Hier also der erste Hinweis auf die bes. Draft-Unterstützung auf den Karten.

Posted: 22 Jun 2006, 09:41
by hardyrange
Bitte bachte, dass die gestrige Mail von Oscar den Inhalt des Pre-Release-Kist beschreibt, die vorherige von dir zitierte Ankündigung aber das "Player's Kit".
Ich vermute allerdings auch, dass die Demo-Decks aus dem Pre-Release Kit dieselben sein werden wie aus dem separat erhältlichen Player's Kit, und wundere mich dann mit dir zusammen, dass es dann nicht alle vier verschiedenen im Pre-release gibt...

Bei Ani-Pot stimme ich Dir zu...

Ich habe zu dem Thema gerade mal in die Conclave gepostet; wenn ich was höre, dann hört ihr auch was...

Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 10:42
by Mateusz
hardyrange wrote:
Pre-release kit contents:

1 x 2751WWP VTES 3rd Ed Booster Display
1 x 2752WWP VTES 3rd Ed Starter Display
1 x 2751WWP VTES 3rd Ed Booster Display Prize
5 x 2631WWP VTES Demo Deck: Ventrue
5 x 2632WWP VTES Demo Deck: Aus-Pre
6 x 2633WWP VTES Demo Deck: Anti-Pot
16 x 2541WWP Promo: VTES Playmat 11x17
30 x 2735WWP VTES Promo Card Waxen Poetica
Kann sich unter der Karte jemand was vorstellen? Ein Gedicht aus Wachs? :? Ich habe mal gegoogelt, beim Vampire:The Masquerade PC Spiel wird eine "Waxen Poetica" als Waffe aufgelistet, jedoch ohne genauere Beschreibung. Ideen?

Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 10:56
by hardyrange
Mateusz wrote:Kann sich unter der Karte jemand was vorstellen? Ein Gedicht aus Wachs? :? Ich habe mal gegoogelt, beim Vampire:The Masquerade PC Spiel wird eine "Waxen Poetica" als Waffe aufgelistet, jedoch ohne genauere Beschreibung. Ideen?
Aus den Path of Blood Foren dieses Gerücht:
Eibon wrote:
pallando wrote:On a side note, does anyone know the promo card Waxen Poetica?
I heard the rumor of it was an existing promo-to-be in Gehenna that finnaly didn't see the light, and it was a weapon that deals 3R Aggravated Damage as a strike, but with a few restrictions...
Laut http://www.pen-paper.net/mage.php?op=wo ... ertypeid=5 gibt es Nähere Infos über dieses "Thaumaturgische Artefakt" im Vampire Storytellers Handbook (d.i. die erste Edition von 1992), Seite 141. Habe ich aber gerade nicht auf der Arbeit rumstehen... 8) Heute Abend zu Hause, wenn ich daran denke...

Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 12:49
by Kristian
Aus dem Kapitel "Appendix: Enchanted Items for Vampire"

"Waxen Poetica - feared by all those who have encountered these little wax tablets, the Waxen Poetica have caused the horrid destruction of more than one of the undead. When washed in a point of blood, the user can spend a Willpower point and throw it at a foe. Upon hitting that foe, the wax latches on and begins to spread across its victim's body. Extremly hot, it begins to cause damage once it has covered at least half of the body (usually after three turns). For every succeeding turn it causes an additional die of aggravated damage, which may be soaked normally. Thus by the 10th turn after it has hit someone, the wax causes seven dice of damage. The wax cannot be removed unless the Storyteller botches its damage roll, in which case it stops growing and begins to cool to the point where the character can peel it off. Note that after six turns it completely covers its victim, prohibiting action and smothering mortals."

The Storytellers Handbook, WW 2222, 1997, S. 141

Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 11:53
by Pyro
*Autsch*

Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 12:59
by eBarbarossa
Ich wußte doch gleich daß der Name mir bekannt vorkam. Hui, was neues für meine Kampfzauberer!

Posted: 07 Jul 2006, 12:44
by Decebalus
Hat sich inzwischen wa getan, ob die Demo-Decks aus Prerelease und Players-Kit identisch sind? Und warum nur 3 im Pre-Kit?

Bin etwas ratlos, was ich den jetzt für das Prerelease bestellen soll.