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Ich denke auch, da im Moment auf Turnieren nicht die großen Voterdecks gespielt werden. Nur mit Antivotekarten muß man deshalb rechnen, aber bei 9 PS sollte man kein allzugroßes Problem damit haben.

Deck Name: Mata&Maris version 2.0
Created By: Johannes Walch
Description: Played this in the French Championship. Slimmed down version including Sudario Refraction for card recursion. Better than the previous version, but I was cornered between Wall Deck(prey) and Cybeletron(pred) in the first and between two Wall Decks in the second round, even then managed to oust my preys, but timeout prevented GWs. Third round also timed out due to heavy negotiations with a lot of votes on the table.

This deck could really use some better bleed defense, perhaps I will change the crypt to more AUS and include more Telepathic Misdirection and 1-2 Archon Investigation.

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 23, Max: 34, Avg: 7,08)
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4 Mata Hari aus for qui CHI OBF7 Ravnos
3 Maris Streck ani dem dom AUS OBF9 Malkavian
2 Quentin King III obf pre AUS DEM 7 Malkavian
1 Guedado aus obf vic 4 Tzimisce
1 Mukhtar Bey obf pot FOR PRE QUI7 Caitiff
1 Victor Pelletier cel dom for PRE 5 Ventrue

Library: (75 cards)
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Master (17 cards)
1 Giant`s Blood
4 Jake Washington (Hunter)
3 Dreams of the Sphinx
3 Direct Intervention
1 Demonstration
1 Ferraille
1 Secure Haven
1 Perfectionist
1 Ventrue Headquarters
1 Powerbase: Tshwane

Action (2 cards)
2 Sudario Refraction

Action Modifier (25 cards)
4 Cloak the Gathering
3 Forgotten Labyrinth
3 Lost in Crowds
2 Elder Impersonation
2 Faceless Night
2 Veil the Legions
9 Freak Drive

Political Action (11 cards)
8 Parity Shift
3 Kine Resources Contested

Reaction (5 cards)
1 Telepathic Misdirection
4 On the Qui Vive

Ally (9 cards)
7 War Ghoul
1 Nephandus (Mage)
1 Muddled Vampire Hunter

Retainer (4 cards)
1 Jackie Therman
1 Mr. Winthrop
1 Tasha Morgan
1 J. S. Simmons, Esq.

Event (1 cards)
1 Unmasking, The

Combo (1 cards)
1 Draba

Nordlicht76 wrote:Aber PTO ist trotzdem schlimmer - es kann dir einfach mal so deinen Schlüsselvampir kosten und dann hast du ein großes Problem...(mal davon ausgegangen dass ein IC die Aktion macht)

PTO kann aber nur vernüftig von IC gespielt werden und die sind dann oft der Tablehate. MIt Parity Shift kannst du besser dealen und bist nicht so auf dem Präsentierteller.

Was ist ein Cybeletron-Deck?

Männele wrote:Was ist ein Cybeletron-Deck?

Origins 2007
Columbus, Ohio
July 8th, 2007
Sunday 11AM
2R+F
21 players

Ben Peal's Tournament Winning Deck with 4 VPs in the finals

Deck Name: Cybelotron
Created By: Ben Peal
Description:
This deck was originally based on Erik Torstensson's Summon the Serpent
deck, which won a tournament in Gothenburg, Sweden in 2005. His deck
mixes in Settites, and includes Temptation and Form of Corruption. The
deck is a blast to play, but I felt the need to strip it down to its core:
Cybele, Great Beast, and Golconda. I took out the Serpentis actions,
replaced Vast Wealth with Magic of the Smith, added more stealth, dropped
some unneeded masters, dropped the Minion Taps down to 4, and increased
the Golcondas up to 4. I put the deck on the back burner for a while, as
I was working on intercept walls, but I saw that Johannes Walch happened
to make the finals of the 2007 Dutch Qualifier with a Cybele + Great
Beast, so, emboldened by Johannes' succes, I figured I'd get back to work
on my own version. Johannes' addition of Antediluvian Awakening was pure
genius, so I included it in my version.

The operation of the deck is as follows: you put a skill card on Cybele,
who then plays Magic of the Smith to get the Soul Gem of Etrius, untaps
via Truth of a Thousand Lies, then plays Call the Great Beast (OBF PRE
SER). Cybele explodes, bringing out a brand new Cybele. The Great Beast
bleeds, and the new Cybele bleeds with her special. On the next turn, you
Golconda your Great Beast and play a skill card on the new Cybele. Cybele
bleeds with her special, untaps via Truth of a Thousand Lies, then plays
Call the Great Beast, and the Great Beast and Cybele bleed again. When
you can (when you need to), you Minion Tap the Great Beast or play
Redeem the Lost soul to cash in one of your blown up Cybeles. You also
have some protection against Archon Investigation, as you're free to pump
up Cybele's bleeds due to the Soul Gem, If they play AI, then they've
paid 3 and given you a new vampire who can now bleed for 3 more.

I think Johannes is right to have 3 Soul Gems in his deck instead of the 2
that my version and Erik's version use. I nearly lost the finals due to
drawing both Soul Gems while sitting in between 2 intercept walls. I also
think that Johannes is right to have 5 Golconda and 3 Minion Tap instead
of the 4 and 4 that I use, since you'd rather get rid of the Great Beast
and make a new one instead of Minion Tapping it and leaving it around.
Antediluvian Awakening is an amazing card for this deck, as it gives you
the ability to blow up Cybele when you need to, such as when Cybele is
sitting in torpor, or if Pentex Subversion is played on her. Johannes'
version adds in some bleed cards -- Sense the Sin and True Love's Face --
as well as Ossian (he found the ability to rush to be helpful). My
version stays focussed on the combo, and is stealthier.


Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 40, Max: 40, Avg: 10)
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12 Cybele ANI DAI OBF PRE SER THA 10 Baali

Library: (90 cards)
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Master (28 cards)
1 Barrens, The
2 Parthenon, The
4 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Antediluvian Awakening
4 Golconda: Inner Peace
4 Minion Tap
2 Redeem the Lost Soul
1 Giant`s Blood
1 Fortschritt Library
1 Direct Intervention
2 Auspex
2 Celerity
2 Fortitude
1 Dominate

Action (19 cards)
8 Magic of the Smith
3 Entrancement
8 Call the Great Beast

Action Modifier (31 cards)
5 Elder Impersonation
5 Lost in Crowds
4 Cloak the Gathering
4 Faceless Night
2 Spying Mission
11 Truth of a Thousand Lies

Combat (3 cards)
3 Majesty

Ally (1 cards)
1 Mylan Horseed (Goblin)

Equipment (2 cards)
2 Soul Gem of Etrius

Event (1 cards)
1 Anthelios, the Red Star

Combo (5 cards)
5 Swallowed by the Night

Vielen Dank, jetzt weiß ich Bescheid. Sehr feines Deck. Macht sicher Spaß zu spielen. Ich wäre auf so was nicht gekommen. Schauder.

Aber ich dachte der Soul Gem und Golconda funktionieren nicht, weil der Vampir nicht "burned".

Pyro wrote:Aber ich dachte der Soul Gem und Golconda funktionieren nicht, weil der Vampir nicht "burned".

Das stimmt auch.

Das Golconda ist fuer das Beast, nicht fuer Cybele.

Cybele, who then plays Magic of the Smith to get the Soul Gem of Etrius, untaps via Truth of a Thousand Lies, then plays Call the Great Beast (OBF PRE SER). Cybele explodes, bringing out a brand new Cybele.

Ich beziehe mich auf diesen Teil

Cybele stirbt durch den cardtext der action Call the Great Beast.

Männele wrote:Vielen Dank, jetzt weiß ich Bescheid. Sehr feines Deck. Macht sicher Spaß zu spielen.

Sofern man vom Hardy nicht in Runde 2 für 11 und in Runde 3 für 10 gebleedet wird schon (geschehen auf dem Dutch-Qualifier).

Murat wrote:

Männele wrote:Vielen Dank, jetzt weiß ich Bescheid. Sehr feines Deck. Macht sicher Spaß zu spielen.

Sofern man vom Hardy nicht in Runde 2 für 11 und in Runde 3 für 10 gebleedet wird schon (geschehen auf dem Dutch-Qualifier).

Das war shit Aber zum Glück hat sein Predator den Sudden auf nen Wash gespielt anstatt auf den Info Highway