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*SPOILER* Vorschau auf Kindred Most Wanted

Posted: 09 Dec 2004, 09:30
by hardyrange
Hallo da draussen,

im neuen White Wolf Quarterly magazine gibt es einen ausführlichen Artikel zu KMW, den The Lasombra freundlicherweise ins Netz gestellt hat.

VTES: Kindred Most Wanted Wanted, an expansion with four
pre-constructed starter decks and boosters, is available in February.

Vampire: The Eternal Struggle
Kindred Most Wanted Starters: $9.99 each; $79.92 for display
Boosters: $2.99 each; $107.64 for display

(See Inside Front Cover and page 18 for stock #s and ISBN)


More Than Damned


VTES brings out the nastiest of vampires in Kindred Most Wanted
by L. Scott Johnson, Vampire: The Eternal Struggle developer


The Red List.
Anathema.


The vampires so ruthless and vicious that even elder vampires consider
them monsters, and so cunning that they elude capture even when
they’re marked for destruction by those elder vampires.


These monsters enter the spotlight in Kindred Kindred Most Wanted
Wanted, the latest expansion for Vampire: The Eternal Struggle from
White Wolf. From the guile of Kemintiri, who looted Camarilla coffers
in the guise of the Ventrue justicar, to the unbridled savagery of
Enkidu, the most powerful predator the world has known, they’re
ready to enter your decks in a big way. In all, 13 of the most feared
creatures in the World of Darkness make their way to the Eternal
Struggle. Some of the original 13 have been replaced with new names.
And, of course, there are cards that allow Methuselahs to add the
names of their rivals’ minions to the list during play.


The set also features a few of the more renowned alastors, the
vampires who spend their unlives tracking down the Kindred Most
Wanted. Of course, the anathema are fair game for any vampire,
no special license or commission is necessary. That’s the primary
purpose of the Red List — to engage all vampires in the hunt and
destruction of the few singled out for the list.


As fugitives, Red-List vampires constantly face the threat of combat
in the game. Fortunately, they have the skills to survive such
assaults. Many are simply fearsome enough that their would-be
attackers have to spend some effort equipping with weapons and
building up other resources before attacking, and not every deck will
field vampires up to that task. Others are less fearsome, but also
more wily and difficult to catch.


The rewards for bagging a Red-List vampire are great, however. Havens,
hunting grounds, wealth, training in new Disciplines, progeny and even
sanctioned diablerie are for the asking to one who takes down an
anathema. In the card game, this is accomplished through a mechanism
similar to the rules for diablerizing vampires of greater capacity.
Instead of Discipline cards, though, there are now Trophy cards to
place on the triumphant vampire.


The set also places a special emphasis on the independent vampires. It
introduces many new group-four vampires for the four main independent
clans, the Assamites, the Followers of Set, the Giovanni and the
Ravnos, along with several new clan-specific library cards for each.


And the set features the first starter deck for a Bloodlines clan, the
Baali starter, as one of the four pre-constructed starter decks. (The
other three focus on the Gangrel antitribu, the alastors and the
vampires of the Red List, respectively.)


By Design


The following is a preview of selected cards from the set. Note that
these designs aren’t finalized yet (playtesting is ongoing at the time
of this writing), so the final forms of these cards are not guaranteed
to match this text. But the flavor should still come through.


Designing the set was an interesting challenge. In particular, finding
the interplay of power necessary to preserve balance while still
capturing the feel of the Red List and the dread those vampires
inspire was tough to get right. We ended up with a special rule for
Red-List minions which allows anyone to try to bring them down in
combat. That rule helps weigh the Red-List vampires down and offset
the increased Disciplines, strengths and special abilities designed
into them. Without that rule, some of the Red-List vampires would seem
very powerful indeed, quite out of line with their predecessors. For
example, Valeius, a Tremere possessed by his former dark master,
Varro:


Valerius Maior (Tremere, 7 capacity)
Disciplines: nec pre AUS DAI DOM THA
Camarilla. Red List: If Valerius makes a strike that requires
Thaumaturgy, he gains an optional additional strike, usable only to
make a strike that requires Thaumaturgy. Infernal.


Valerius is enough of a combat threat to make most trophy-seekers look
elsewhere, especially as the first non-Baali capable of playing all of
the Daimoinon cards.


With the Gehenna release, we’ve already seen the introduction of the
Alastor card, which is useful for getting trophy-hunters properly
outfitted for the fight. The Kindred Most Wanted set adds a couple of
faces to the position. One of those faces is that of Echo, the
Nosferatu alastor:


Echo (Nosferatu, 7 capacity)
Disciplines: aus dom CEL OBF POT
Camarilla: Echo gets +1 strength in combat with a Red-List minion.


The justicars — and, indeed, sometimes entire clans — offer trophies,
or boons, to those who bring down their enemies on the Red List. One
possible reward is to be given claim to prime hunting grounds in the
city.


Trophy: Hunting Ground
Action Modifier/Reaction
Boon. Hunting Ground. Usable by a tapped vampire. Usable during
combat. Usable only when this vampire burns a Red-List minion
controlled by another Methuselah. Put this card on this vampire.
During your untap phase, this vampire gains 2 blood from the blood
bank. A vampire can gain blood from only 1 Hunting Ground card each
turn.


The goodies for the independent clans include new ways of getting
additional vampires into play, similar to what the Camarilla and
Sabbat have with The Third Tradition: Progeny and Creation Rites.
Rather than being sect-specific (and requiring a title), these are
merely clan-specific (and some require a certain minimum capacity).
Take Web of Knives Recruit for example:


Web of Knives Recruit
Action Assamite
1 pool+1 stealth action.
Put this card in play in your uncontrolled region. During your untap
phase, move one counter from the bank to this card. When it has three
counters, move it to your ready region. It becomes a 3 capacity
independent Assamite with Celerity, Obfuscate, Potence, Quietus and
three blood. A Methuselah may have only one Web of Knives Recruit in
his or her uncontrolled region at a time.


The recruit is not active as quickly as a vampire brought in play with
The Embrace or the other cards of that kind, but the resulting vampire
is much stronger and less vulnerable. The other cards of this sort in
Kindred Most Wanted are Proxy Kissed, Tumnimos and The Waters of Duat.
Each functions a little differently, however.


As usual, there are cards for many Disciplines and deck types,
including some new three-ways and other cards for the anarchs, some
new allies, like Ossian, some new combat cards, like Disengage and
Haymaker, new guns, vehicles and other equipment, and a even a few new
events.

Posted: 09 Dec 2004, 14:05
by Denis
interessante umsetzung. obwohl ich vom dem beispiel (valerius) noch nicht wirklich überzeugt bin...

für dieenigen die gespannt sind, was da wahrscheinlich noch kommt, aber das KMW buch nicht haben, hier ein kleine aussicht was noch kommen mag:

http://hem.passagen.se/betwik/ANATHEMA.HTM

Posted: 09 Dec 2004, 14:25
by ProcF
Denis wrote:interessante umsetzung. obwohl ich vom dem beispiel (valerius) noch nicht wirklich überzeugt bin...

für dieenigen die gespannt sind, was da wahrscheinlich noch kommt, aber das KMW buch nicht haben, hier ein kleine aussicht was noch kommen mag:

http://hem.passagen.se/betwik/ANATHEMA.HTM
hoffentlich kriegen wir den samedi red list minion, wobei so wie die ankündigung klingt ist das sicher einer derjenigen, die ausgetauscht wurden
danke für den link denis!

Posted: 09 Dec 2004, 15:46
by Denis
ProcF wrote: hoffentlich kriegen wir den samedi red list minion, wobei so wie die ankündigung klingt ist das sicher einer derjenigen, die ausgetauscht wurden



ich hoffe mal stark dass nicht! neben enkidu ist sie so ziemlich der coolste charakter dort...

Posted: 16 Dec 2004, 15:11
by hardyrange
LSJ
Posted: 15 Dec 2004 04:25

KMW has 50 commons, 50 uncommons, and 50 rares in the booster assortment.
_________________
V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
Though effective, appear to be ineffective -- Sun Tzu
Laut einer späteren Erklärung sind die neuen Vampire hier schon mitgezählt.

Posted: 04 Jan 2005, 16:40
by bonzo
Valerius Maior :twisted:

Auf den freue ich mich schon richtig :) Ich glaube mit ihm kann man ein starkes Combat Deck auf Basis von THA und DAI aufbauen ...


Gruß,

BonZo0

Posted: 05 Jan 2005, 09:34
by hardyrange
OK, Echo ist als Beilage in einem englischen Kartenspiel-Magazin aufgetaucht. Scheint so, als hätten wir damit den Promo-Vampir für das neue Set identifiziert...

Der anderswo gepostete Kartentext ist dieser (hat sich gegenüber der Playtest-Version nicht sehr verändert):

Echo
Nosferatu
Cap: 7
POT OBF CEL dom aus
Group: 4
Camarilla: Echo gets +1 strength in combat with a Red List minion.
Illus: Rik Martin

Posted: 05 Jan 2005, 12:06
by Männele
hardyrange wrote:OK, Echo ist als Beilage in einem englischen Kartenspiel-Magazin aufgetaucht. Scheint so, als hätten wir damit den Promo-Vampir für das neue Set identifiziert...

Der anderswo gepostete Kartentext ist dieser (hat sich gegenüber der Playtest-Version nicht sehr verändert):

Echo
Nosferatu
Cap: 7
POT OBF CEL dom aus
Group: 4
Camarilla: Echo gets +1 strength in combat with a Red List minion.
Illus: Rik Martin
Kein ANI, nicht mal ani? Was'n das für ein Nossi? Aber POT, CEL, OBF könnte gut für ein Waffendeck sein mit Möglichkeit auf Graverobbing (dom).

Posted: 05 Jan 2005, 13:31
by ProcF
hardyrange wrote:OK, Echo ist als Beilage in einem englischen Kartenspiel-Magazin aufgetaucht. Scheint so, als hätten wir damit den Promo-Vampir für das neue Set identifiziert...

Der anderswo gepostete Kartentext ist dieser (hat sich gegenüber der Playtest-Version nicht sehr verändert):

ich glaube du breachst da deine nda ;-)

stefan

Posted: 05 Jan 2005, 13:46
by extrala
hardyrange wrote:OK, Echo ist als Beilage in einem englischen Kartenspiel-Magazin aufgetaucht. Scheint so, als hätten wir damit den Promo-Vampir für das neue Set identifiziert...
Gibt es schon entsprechendes Bild (jpg, gif, etc.) irgendwo zu sehen? Kurzes Googlen (nach "Echo Nosferatu Promo") hat leider nix gebracht.

Posted: 05 Jan 2005, 14:03
by hardyrange
ProcF wrote:ich glaube du breachst da deine nda ;-)
Nicht wirklich.
:arrow: Ich bin kein Playtester.
:arrow: Ich habe keine NDA unterzeichnet.
:arrow: Die Playtest-Version ist von WW selber offiziell gespoiled worden - wenn Du dazu noch mal den ersten Post in diesem Thread durchlesen magst... 8)

Posted: 06 Jan 2005, 08:49
by hardyrange
extrala wrote:
hardyrange wrote:OK, Echo ist als Beilage in einem englischen Kartenspiel-Magazin aufgetaucht. Scheint so, als hätten wir damit den Promo-Vampir für das neue Set identifiziert...
Gibt es schon entsprechendes Bild (jpg, gif, etc.) irgendwo zu sehen? Kurzes Googlen (nach "Echo Nosferatu Promo") hat leider nix gebracht.
Guckst Du hier:
http://i15.ebayimg.com/03/i/03/20/5a/83_1_b.JPG

Sexy, was? 8)

Posted: 06 Jan 2005, 13:03
by extrala
Im White Wolf Catalog kann man jetzt KMW auch vorbestellen, als Release Datum wird Montag, der 14.02.2005 genannt.

Langsam wird's Zeit für den Preview auf der WW-Homepage...
Kindred Most Wanted Starter Display
Stock #: 02680
(preorder item) $79.92

The Kindred’s Worst Criminals

What could be a crime in the eyes of those who are already damned? Whether it’s trafficking with infernal powers or taking the life’s blood of an elder, Kindred society punishes its criminals more for subverting undead authority than for committing atrocities. Those who defy the most valued Traditions and sect laws become anathema… outcasts… hunted.

And Those Who Hunt Them.

Kindred Most Wanted is the latest expansion for Vampire: The Eternal Struggle®. This Starter Deck display contains two each of four different pre-constructed starter decks. Choose from the Anathema collection of Kindred criminals, the Baali infernalists, the Alastor Kindred bounty hunters, or the Gangrel clan’s antitribu. Each deck is ready to play out of the box, containing 90 cards and a rulebook.

ISBN: 1-58846-634-5 Stock #: WW2680 Retail Price: $79.92 U.S. (contains 2 each of 4 different starter decks) Developer: L. Scott Johnson
This product will be in stock on Monday 14 February, 2005.
Kindred Most Wanted Booster Display
Stock #: 02681
(preorder item) $107.64

The Kindred’s Worst Criminals

What could be a crime in the eyes of those who are already damned? Whether it’s trafficking with infernal powers or taking the life’s blood of an elder, Kindred society punishes its criminals more for subverting undead authority than for committing atrocities. Those who defy the most valued Traditions and sect laws become anathema… outcasts… hunted.

And Those Who Hunt Them

Kindred Most Wanted is the latest expansion for Vampire: The Eternal Struggle®. This Booster Pack display contains 36 booster packs, each with 11 cards. With 150 unique cards in this expansion, Vampire® players get plenty of new options for deck strategies.

ISBN: 1-58846-635-3 Stock #: WW2681 Retail Price: $107.64 U.S. (contains 36 packs) Developer: L. Scott Johnson
This product will be in stock on Monday 14 February, 2005.

Posted: 06 Jan 2005, 15:31
by hardyrange
extrala wrote:Im White Wolf Catalog kann man jetzt KMW auch vorbestellen, als Release Datum wird Montag, der 14.02.2005 genannt.
Habe mich via Conclave erkundigt, ob dieser Termin offiziell bestätigt wird.
Sobald da Antwort kommt, gebe ich Laut.
extrala wrote:Langsam wird's Zeit für den Preview auf der WW-Homepage...
Es wäre dann auch höchste Zeit für die Planung von Prereleases.
Der Termin würde z.B. mit dem geplanten Constructed Turnier in GE kollidieren...
...mal abgesehen davon, dass WW das Zeug zu uns bekommen muss, was gelegentlich schon eine Herausforderung war.

Posted: 06 Jan 2005, 19:00
by ProcF
hardyrange wrote:
extrala wrote:Im White Wolf Catalog kann man jetzt KMW auch vorbestellen, als Release Datum wird Montag, der 14.02.2005 genannt.
Habe mich via Conclave erkundigt, ob dieser Termin offiziell bestätigt wird.
Sobald da Antwort kommt, gebe ich Laut.

[
potomac hat als release date den 28.2.05

stefan