Europameisterschaft 2005
Posted: 03 Feb 2005, 15:09
Hallo,
aufgrund fehlendem Punkt in der Liste fange ich mal hier an. Vielleicht kann ja orgendeiner das ganze noch verschieben.
In meinem Postfach habe ich folgende Mail gelesen und wollte das mal hier loswerden.
Also ich finde, das das ein blödes System ist, weil man ja schon mal die erste Runde verhauen kann; sei es, weil man blöd zieht oder gerade falsch sitzt etc.
Ich würde es begrüßen, wenn es weiterhin eine 3 Vorrunden + Finale EM geben würde.
Zivi
aufgrund fehlendem Punkt in der Liste fange ich mal hier an. Vielleicht kann ja orgendeiner das ganze noch verschieben.
In meinem Postfach habe ich folgende Mail gelesen und wollte das mal hier loswerden.
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:45:36 -0800
From: "Steve Wieck" <stevew@white-wolf.com>
To: "'Conclave'" <conclave@list.white-wolf.com>
Subject: VEKN Conclave - Draft Policy for Review - 2 Day EC format
Princes,
Last October we reviewed and then approved changing the NAC to a 3 day format, essentially introducing an extra day to make the Continental Championship a 2 round event. We are proceeding to use this format at Gen Con Indy this year and we’ll see how it works.
Speaking further with Gabor and his primogen Tibor in Budapest, it is clear that a 3 day event will not be possible for EC 2005. Therefore we must return to a 2 day format for it.
However, rather than go back to the traditional format of Last Chance Qualifier on day one and a huge Championship on day two, Johannes Walch and Stephane Lavrut have proposed a solution that still allows the Championship to have 2 rounds and also for there to be a Last Chance Qualifier.
The solution seems good to me, but I would like the Princes to examine it and comment upon it for the next week. We have had many long threads on the Conclave lately, so please try not to make the discussion become ongoing debate between two people. Please state your thoughts on the policy and be done, do not debate or refute other the posts of other Princes.
As always if you think any players in your local community have strong feelings about this, ask them and include their thoughts with your own.
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Walch-Lavrut Solution (or is that the Lavrut-Walch Solution? hmmm….
The 2005 European Championship (in Budapest) will still be held over 2 days, so its format becomes like this:
On Day 1 there will be played both a special Last Chance Qualifier (LCQ) and also Round 1 of the Championship at the same time. Players already qualified in previous Continental Qualifiers play in Round 1 of the Championship and players not yet Qualified play in the special LCQ.
The top 35 players from Round 1 continue to Round 2 of the Championship on Day 2. The top 5 (the finalists) of the special LCQ also continue to Round 2 of the Championship on Day 2.
Those 35+5 = 40 players play in Round 2 and the finals of Round 2 determine the 2005 European Champion.
The exact math depends on the numbers of players in each event, but we estimate that a player will have 10:6 better odds of reaching Round 2 of the Championship is they Qualify before the EC and then place in the top 35 versus not qualifying and needing to place in the top 5 of the special LCQ. Since the caliber of players can be assumed to be higher in Round 1 of the Championship (where all players were good enough o
qualify) than in the special LCQ, this tends to counter-balance the 10:6 odds.
If any player does not show up for round 2 , then a replacement player is taken from the same player pool (for example if only 34 of the top players from the semi-final show up, then the 36th player in the semi-final is moved into the final. If only 4 of the 5 “Last Chance” finalists show up then the 6th player from the Last Chance moves up to the Final). These 40 players go through a normal 3+F tournament to determine the Continental Champion (while the rest play in the loser sideline events!).
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Regards,
Steve Wieck
White Wolf
Also ich finde, das das ein blödes System ist, weil man ja schon mal die erste Runde verhauen kann; sei es, weil man blöd zieht oder gerade falsch sitzt etc.
Ich würde es begrüßen, wenn es weiterhin eine 3 Vorrunden + Finale EM geben würde.
Zivi