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Blade Clot
Type: Action Modifier/Combat
Requires: anarch
Requires an anarch.
Only usable when this anarch diablerizes a vampire with capacity 7 or more. Put this card in play with 3 clot counters. When an anarch you control inflicts hand or melee weapon damage, you may move a clot counter from this card to the opposing minion. A minion with a clot counter goes to torpor or is burned during his or her untap phase. If an older vampire rescues the vampire, burn the clot counter.


Fragen:
Wer entscheidet was passiert und warum? (a)Der Controller der Karte oder (b) der Controller des Counter.

Man kann mehrmals wählen in Torpor zu gehen. Angenommen eine Fame liegt auf diesen Vampir (Wording:Put this card on a ready vampire. If this vampire goes to torpor, his or her controller burns 3 pool. While this vampire is in torpor, each Methuselah burns 1 pool during his or her untap phase.) muss bei Fame der wirkliche Prozess des in Torpors gehen vollzogen werden oder reicht es das sich das Wording beider Karten deckt?

Soweit ich das verstehe wird das nicht von irgendeinem Spieler entschieden. Wer den Counter hat und ready ist geht in den Torpor. Wenn jemand schon im Torpor ist, kann er nicht in den Torpor gehen und wird geburnt. So hab ichs verstanden, aber ich bin nicht wirklich regelfest. Musst wohl auf die experten warten

Ich kann meine Antwort von oben jetzt selbst wiederlegen:

Newsgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad
Von: LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com>
Datum: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:27:46 -0400
Lokal: Mi 18 Jun. 2008 18:27
Betreff: Re: Blade clot

John Flournoy wrote:
> On Jun 18, 11:15 am, Joscha <joscha.du...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> On 12 Jun., 14:25, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:

>>> nikol...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> Can you "go to torpor" even though you are there already?
>>> Yes.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.game ... d/msg/a261......
>>>> Its the last bit I am curious about. Does it mean that a minion must
>>>> go to torpor or if he is there already, he is burned?
>>>> Or is it merely to indicate that it will burn allies?
>>> The latter (or a vampire's controller can choose to burn him, if desired).
>> What about a clotted vampire with a Fame on her? If the controller
>> decides in the untap to not burn her does he has to pay the three pool
>> for her entering torpor?
>> I'd say yes, as the vampire enters torpor regardless where she was
>> before and so the condition of Fame is fulfilled.

> You don't burn the three pool again.

Correct.

> The parallel would be Vampiric Disease. "When an afflicted vampire
> untaps, he or she burns a blood"

> A Disease'd vampire does not burn a blood during the untap phase
> unless they actually change from tapped to untapped - even though all
> your untapped cards technically untap at the start of your turn.

> Similarly, Fame triggers on actually going from ready to torpor, not
> simply being subjected to a 'go to torpor' effect (while already in
> torpor.)

> The vampire isn't entering torpor - they were already there, so they
> aren't going anywhere (and Fame doesn't trigger as a result.)

Correct.